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Post by Tim on Jul 22, 2009 14:56:26 GMT -5
I would say I support the idea of the park but there's no way I could be involved. I have to focus solely on family matters right now.
i was going to build a bridge at angel, but that's out of the question right now. I'm just not financially able to do much of anything. Barely have time to ride.
I also feel that there would almost be the necessity for a seperate
non profit type setting. We as individuals suck at doing anything
organized period. At least without standard guidelines.
I thought Harmonie didn't want the liability for it.
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Post by Tim on Jul 22, 2009 14:59:07 GMT -5
Are you responsible for that thing if it gets damaged or will harmonie
help out ?
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Post by kylekirkman on Jul 22, 2009 20:25:28 GMT -5
Harmonie is coll with any and all of it. If it brings in people- it's on......
Liability is intermixed with Tort claim. If some one falls off the intermediate trail and breaks a leg, or gets bitten by a spider at the camprgound, or stubs their foot at the pool, or gets hit by a deer in the showers: any claim that an individual wants to make against the park is atort claim and the person will be suing the federal government.
Harmonie is all green lights.
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Post by kylekirkman on Jul 22, 2009 20:39:43 GMT -5
Harmonie has nothing to do with the trails. Harmonie has nothing to do with a bike park. Everything bike related at the park is up to We the People. Period.
The maintenance guys can and will help out with certain things: ie using the frontloader for earth moving for us..... and there is the Youth Conservation workers who can be available: if we have a specific plan for construction presented to the park.
But ultimately- it is up to the local usses to keep everything in order.
It's not that Harmonie didn't want liability.... I don't want to be the only one in the prep phase for it.... If there is just a few people who can make it out there once a month and spend a few hours building: That's good enough for me for something small and manageable. If something small is built, and people ride it and begin to particpate in upkeep and maintenance, then we can expand it as long as there is a base of upkeep.
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Post by kylekirkman on Jul 22, 2009 20:42:06 GMT -5
and I've noticed that: going the extra mile for the park does get returns from park management, and their employees, and avil materials. I've got a good working relationship with them and everyone who goes there can too.... expect Patrol sessions and other events to make even greater headway with the park in the near future....
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Post by kylekirkman on Jul 22, 2009 21:33:06 GMT -5
also posted on HMBA forums.....
I'm going to go out on a limb and shoot for a scouting session around the middle of October.... Say October 18th.....
I believe that Alex is the only one to get a good on foot picture of what's "Westward" from the Walnut/Intermediate trail.... If anyone would like a topo and begin to review Alex's conceptual ideas, and then speak with him say, in a confrence call in the future, about what features and lines he knows exists so we can scout it....
give me a shout... email, or call 2 o 4 - o five five one
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Post by kylekirkman on Jul 23, 2009 3:55:30 GMT -5
"Harmonie has nothing to do with the trails"---- rephrase... Harmonie is not in charge of maintaining... but allows us to use equipment, and has YCC available for potential use...... They are the host, we clear ideas and projects through them... They have some items for us to use and are very willing to see us succeede because if we do, they do. win win.
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Post by Tim on Jul 23, 2009 6:55:03 GMT -5
Gate fee of $4,$5 I wouldn't have a problem either.
Gotta love Indiana.
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Post by kylekirkman on Jul 28, 2009 7:45:45 GMT -5
From Alex on the HMBA HArmonie Thread........... I've only scouted the area north/east of the Oka Run drainage: ![]() alexmtb.smugmug.com/photos/603196566_ge8SF-XL.jpg [/img] Here's a sketch of one potential route from the walnut shelter area to the bridge crossing Oka. You should be able to use 80' to 110' of elevation change at least 3 times. The distance of this sketch is just over 3.5 miles. Of course, once you start running grade lines and scouting the best drainage crossings your finished route will differ from this sketch. I don't think Oka can reasonably be crossed anywhere other than the old roadbed bridge. You might find a crossing far upstream but most of what I saw was flat bottom swamp land guarding the deep gash of Oka. That would require serious boardwalking leading to a large bridge structure (25+'). That leaves a nice chunk of land to the southwest. To get there you will have to cross the Pahoka drainage. It looks like the closer you get to the property boundary with the camp the better your chances for this crossing may be. Once across Pahoka, it looks like you'll have nice contour terrain to make a loop. It's unfortunate that the southern property boundary cuts off the good contour land that would allow for a large loop back to Walnut shelter area. Be sure to guard yourself from the Chiggers! When I was scouting in late Sept. last year I came home covered with bites. That's a little slice of hell I wouldn't wish on anyone. Even you, Kyle  |
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Post by kylekirkman on Jul 28, 2009 7:46:41 GMT -5
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Post by kylekirkman on Jul 28, 2009 20:15:35 GMT -5
regarding Trail work at Harmonie:
1st timers- go to the park office, before mthe main gate on the right..
sign the volunteer waiver
sign in and sign out your volly hours!!!
YOUR VOLLY HOURS ARE SENT TO THE STATE AND HMBA, AND ARE TOTALLED UP AS $$$ PER HOUR- and is used to match grant monies.
You want more $$$ for more trails by HMBA??? LOG YOUR HOURS!!!
Also: TO USE A CHAINSAW IN ANY INDIANA STATE PARK, you must take the chainsaw class..........since there are more and more people getting involved I will talk to harmonie and schedule a date in a month or so, in time for the Advanced trail scouting
other info.......
@ harmonie
Asst director: Chastity Spindler
Director Jim Gray
Park employees who are very very helpful
Eugene
Nate
Vince
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Post by kylekirkman on Jul 30, 2009 16:29:19 GMT -5
Ben Blitch will be here next Thursday and Friday....
He would like to meet with everyone and anyone interested and talk biking, bike parks and potential development and growth in the area..........
Would anyone be interested in meeting with him Friday at a restraunt, a bar, my basement? Friday evening is good for him but he will stay till saturday if most people were available
Please post here or call 2 oh four oh five five one or email evvemabike at gmail dot com
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Post by kylekirkman on Aug 4, 2009 15:05:56 GMT -5
hello- Ben is in town. I'm off to meet him at Harmonie for the rest of the afternoon, will ride and get a rhino to the tread... call if you happen to be out and want to meet up 204 0551
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Post by kylekirkman on Aug 5, 2009 4:46:44 GMT -5
Will be out again today de rimming, and also Friday afternoon...
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Post by thrashin on Sept 14, 2009 14:32:01 GMT -5
what are you working on?
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